Alex Devine on the movie Donkey Punch

[Dane]

"Ok, I am finally going to reply to this.... DONKEY PUNCH was the most brutal, depressing, scarey scene that I have ever done. I have tried to block it out from my memory due to the severe abuse I recieved during the filming. I had been made to believe that the scene was going to be more sex, penetration, and rough as opposed to being 'beat up' with a few penetrations. The guy, Steve French has a natural hatred towards women in the sense that he has always been known to be more brutal than EVER needed. I agreed to do the scene thinking it was less beating, except the 'punch' in the head. If you noticed, steve had worn his solid gold ring the entire time, and continued to punch me with it. I actually stopped the scene while it was being filmed because I was in too much pain. I begged for him to remove the ring but he refused. That almost made me walk off the set and say 'fuck it'. I sucked it up and wanted to finish so i would be paid. Witht he ring on his hand still, we continued the scene.

**Now i am not sure how much you all know about me, but I have had some major surgeries on my head. One was on the lower back right of my skull.... The doctor never replaced the bone there because it grows back on its own. It had been several years since that surgery, and i now have grown a strong cartilage in place of my missing bone.

I had specifically explained that Steve could not hit that spot, and that anywhere else on my head was fine. I explained this to him as well, showing him on my head the places. He acknowledged the request of mine. As the pop happened he punched me several times in the head. Exactly where he was told not to. He did it with the ring on too.

*You can hear me scream in pain 'wrong side! ow, ow, wrong side!' in the movie and trailer. I had to re-do the pop shot/donkey punch for 'better footage' while in pain, and he wore the damn ring again. At the end of my scene they had me sit on the couch with the directors and explain that I was ok and was willing to do the scene.

I was in tears I sincerely hope that no one enjoys that scene. I want to cry when I think about it. "

your thoughts? should of they punched her harder?

[Talleyrand]

She's just not donkey punch material.

[Element 115]

pretty stupid of her to sign up for a flick called donkey punch if she didnt want to get punched hahaha

[Carpe]

pretty stupid of her to sign up for a flick called donkey punch if she didnt want to get punched hahaha

I'll co-sign that.
But seriously. Who really likes that kind of porn?
I can see the tied up and rape fantasies, but I'd rather not watch a whore take a serious beating.

[Element 115]

black eyes are definitely not attractive
i dont even like that shit when the bitches mascara runs, its a turn off

[Ned]

like you didnt laugh at that carpe you stinky old man

i lollololed at this:


I have tried to block it out from my memory due to the severe abuse I recieved during the filming

[Carpe]

like you didnt laugh at that carpe you stinky old man

i lollololed at this:

Actually, no I didnt. I watched a pron called 'Tough Love' or some shit, my penis and my good time shriveled right in front of me.

[Ned]

http://www.xxxpornstation.com/id/ftna/alex/alex3.jpg

you dont have to get off on it to laugh at it. i dont know about you but id lol even more watching this bitch getting whopped in the back of the head.

[Dane]

I find the whole artical quite amusing and I'd masturbate to her being beat with glee

[Carpe]

http://www.xxxpornstation.com/id/ftna/alex/alex3.jpg

hahahahahaha
I've actually got a dvd with her in it geting thrashed.
Girlvert or some shit.

[Ned]

she took it like a champ atleast. ill give her that much.

[Dane]

http://www.xxxpornstation.com/id/ftna/alex/alex3.jpg

hahahahahaha
I've actually got a dvd with her in it geting thrashed.
Girlvert or some shit.
Girlvert is a fun series.

[leaninoffsprite]

lol dumb bitch

[Carpe]

Girlvert is a fun series.

Ashley is a true whore.

[Dane]

lol dumb bitch
how insightful-

[leaninoffsprite]

how insightful-
thanks

[Dane]

Ashley is a true whore.
Kelly Wells from Girlvert 8 http://myspace-656.vo.llnwd.net/00555/65/60/555120656_l.jpg

[Carpe]

Kelly Wells from Girlvert 8 http://myspace-656.vo.llnwd.net/00555/65/60/555120656_l.jpg

Please tell me that's not shit in her mouth.

[Dane]

Please tell me that's not shit in her mouth.
I'm not to sure what it is

[Talleyrand]

I would have thought that Dill could spot a scat flick from a mile away.

[Dane]

I would have thought that Dill could spot a scat flick from a mile away.
I don't think scat is legal via dvd? I could be wrong though

[Talleyrand]

I don't know. I don't see the harm with a little scat. I would have thought you knew all of the porn regulations by heart.

[furst]

Complete lolling at this thread. I don't even think the shit's that dramatic. Bitch probably likes the abuse and expressing her pretencious disdain towards it is just a publicity scam of sorts. I mean, come on... how sorry can you be for someone who voluntarily did that shit?

[Dane]

I don't know. I don't see the harm with a little scat. I would have thought you knew all of the porn regulations by heart.
well there is definition on obsenity. it goes by community standards so there are certian things that don't make it on DVD such as fisting and as far as I know, scat

[Talleyrand]

hahahahaha

Dill is the Johnny Cochrane of porn laws.

This thread delivers.

[Filthy Little Stoner]

poor poor Alex thinking she could be a punching bag, she never should have convinced herself she was worth being anything more than a human toilet.

[Dane]

poor poor Alex thinking she could be a punching bag, she never should have convinced herself she was worth being anything more than a human toilet.
you summed it up very nicely. She shouldn't be able to claim to be "extreme" any more. She took her beating like a woman and cried about it.

[Dane]

this is causeing quite the stir in porn valley
Christian writes on ADT:

This scene is definitely an example of why girls need agents. LA Direct calls me all the time asking me about certain scenes which have different requirements. i either turn them down or not. if she needed the money for the scene that badly, then she would have agreed to anything. how can you blame the company when she agreed to do the scene? she is an adult. she makes her own choices.

I don't know how steven french did that scene. I am in this business because I love women. obviously, there are guys who are in this business because the opposite is true. Who would wear a ring in addition to being asked to hit a girl in the head? If I were asked to do donkey punch, obviously I would have said no. I like Jeff Steward, I like a lot of his stuff, but not this movie. but he still has a right to put it out.

DAC, I love your posts, you are obviously intelligent and thoughtful, but how can you defend a girl who, is an adult, isnt new to the business, agreed to do the scene, didn't stop it when she was hurting, agreed to do a scene with her head problems. It doesn't make any sense. I have seen the scars on her head, they are huge, she is telling the truth about her previous injuries.

David Aaron Clark writes:

It's not that I'm "defending" Alex Devine. I'm not saying that I find her life decisions very inspiring or worthy of elevating her to Rosa Parks status. But even if, for the sake of argument, she happens to be weak-willed & have gotten herself into the place in life where she's at of her own accord, as you rightly point out, that doesn't justify the actions of the male performer.

It also doesn't absolve the producer/directors, or the distributor. "She was asking for it" is neither a legal or moral grounds for defense, even if on some level it could be argued to be true.

For every Alex Devine whom for whatever reason actually speaks up, there are a dozen other girls being put through the same violent frat-boy antics who don't say anything because either they fear losing work from other producers once branded as "difficult," or feel it won't make any difference, or just get out of the business. In fact, Self-centered, ethics-free producers count on that population to keep titles like this going.

French is merely a tool -- all puns intended. The primary perpetrators, the ones who bludgeoned her with that tool are "Grip" & "Cram," who are obviously attempting to commercialize whatever hobbies they had as kids sticking firecrackers up the asses of stray cats they lured to their backyard with a dish of cream.

Also directly complicit is [Jeff] Steward, for merrily distributing this product & thinking the controversy was just hilarious -- until the shit started hitting his own fan. His latest, lame attempt at self-defense by going on the offense seems to be accusing Mike South of being "a double agent" out to bring the porn industry down, & attempting to marginalize the tide of opposition to material like this that goes way farther than rough sex or consensual S/M by blaming it on the skewed starlet-worship of "350 pound fanboys" (an AC Cream reference, when that notorious bleeding heart hasn't even been a part of this debate).

However, I must admit, it's fun to watch bullies get all flustered & defensive when they suddenly find themselves on even ground with the opposition, as opposed to imagining that making a career of exploiting the weaknesses of those around them & then bragging about it on the internet somehow makes them king of the anthill.

Best to you, Christian, & all of the other talent in this industry who are basically decent people who'd like to make a buck having some nasty fun -- but not at the expense of others' hearts, minds & spinal cords.


JM Productions To Drop Donkey Punch?

JM owner Jeff Steward had a chat with AVN President Paul Fishbein Tuesday and Jeff said JM would probably stop selling Donkey Punch. It did not have big sales anyway.

Melissa Lauren On Donkey Punch

She writes on ADT:

[Alex Devine] said it herself, she knew it was "donkey punch". when you come on set knowing the movie's called donkey punch, you know what the f--- to expect. im not saying it is right. but the girls know what they re getting into. When i did "go f--- yourself 2" for CoffeeRon over a year ago, i knew i was in for some rough stuff. and yes, i was bruised for several days after the shoot. have i complained? have i asked for more money? No. cause i knew beforehand what it would be like and agreed to do it. And i actually worked again for Ron a couple of weeks later.

Mike South Vs. Donkey Punch

Mike writes:

I have been hearing about this video for a couple of months now but didn't give it much thought until I read the gut wrenching story of one of the participants. I mean not even I would have thought that they were doing this for real, that it wasn't staged. And even if it was...how f stupid do you have to be to foist this on the adult industry at this time? Apparently you have to be as stupid as Jeff Mike, honcho at JM Productions. Who released this abortion. When confronted about it JM tried to pass it off as an "old release". One need only look it up on the net to see it was released in Dec of 2005, Hardly an old release...

AVN reviews the DVD in the March issue and gives it 3.5 stars and an overall good review saying " rougher than most, but consenting cast is entertaining."

When I brought up the issue with Paul Fishbein, Head Honcho at AVN he had this to say: "We won't review Donkey Punch movies anymore."

Indeed I sensed that this was something that "Fish", as he is affectionately known, wasn't aware of, and understandably so, Im sure he doesn't read every review and I believe the video may have presented itself as staged. Even at that it shouldn't be something that we in this industry have to deal with. I, for one, do not want my name associated with an industry that would support this.

This is not free speech, this is aggravated assault and aggravated assault is NOT protected free speech. So a BIG f--- YOU to JM Productions for having no concern for fellow pornographers. If they want to be an outcast I say fine, lets treat them as one. Distributors can refuse to carry their product, retailers can refuse to buy it and industry publications can refuse to sell them ad space. [Adultdvdempire.com refused to stock it...good for them] And at the same time maybe all of the above can avoid the criminal charges that may come from having it on your shelves. Can we as an industry finally say "We may not know where the line is but this has certainly crossed it"?

[Filthy Little Stoner]

good read, thanks for posting this Dill.
it's funny how nobody mentions that some girls are just a little too masochistic and probably wouldn't even freak out or say fuck it if they were to be beating into a coma or strangled to death in front of a camera. still I do really feel sad about Alex (or Heather as her real name is I think), she's not exactly new to the bizz and she really needs to learn to stick up for herself in the future or she might end up in a snuff flick one day.

[Dane]

good read, thanks for posting this Dill.
it's funny how nobody mentions that some girls are just a little too masochistic and probably wouldn't even freak out or say fuck it if they were to be beating into a coma or strangled to death in front of a camera. still I do really feel sad about Alex (or Heather as her real name is I think), she's not exactly new to the bizz and she really needs to learn to stick up for herself in the future or she might end up in a snuff flick one day.
Heather and Alex are too different whores but they do alot of web work together.
I really don't feel bad for her at all. She could of killed the scene anytime. Sure the guy was a prick but at the same the girl should of known what she was getting herself into. The title was "Donkey Punch" I'm not hearing any of the other whores making public statements. I'm may not be a fan of this type of porn but when you start bowing down and letting people censor you, it starts to fuck with freedom of speech.

[Filthy Little Stoner]

well correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know the phrase donkey punch only refers to hitting a girl hard in the back of the head or neck just before your ready to cum in her ass, so that doesn't really have to mean it's hard hitting sex from start to finish. anyway I don't think I'm buying this movie but it's cool to know about it.

[CHILLY]

I deffinatly need to see that scene. Jerking off may not be an option, but seeing a bitch get punched on film with her consent is all you need for a good laugh.

[Dane]

this is what all the fuss is about! waaaa waaaaa I say. I've seen way worse than this
Trailer
http://www.chatsworthpictures.com/donkeypunchtrailer.wmv

[Logan Fate]

WTF - maybe i am not understanding something, but arent you suppose to donkey punch a chick right before "THEY" cum because it is suppose to make them cum harder? As in .. one punch .. not beating the fuck out of bitches while fucking them? You would think it would be a regular flick until they chick is about to climax .. and then pow. I dont think these guys knew what they were doing or just didnt care. And wtf was up with that last guy ..that wasn't a punch??!! Such noobs. I hope when they come out with Dirty Sanchez, they get shit right.

[Dane]

YAY someone upped my favorite thread. I'll have to dig up more news on this flick, watch the trailers. the second punch is ill

[furst]

I watched a flick with this whore the other day.. she's a little bit retarded (literally) I think.

[Dane]

yeah she is a dumb ass un employed bottom feeding whore. I hope she has to eat shit for a living after being such a whining bitch.

[Element 115]

Please tell me that's not shit in her mouth.

this is the funniest post of the year

[furst]

:laugh2: The fact that you bumped this thread by quoting that post is even funnier.

[uk goon]

their are so many stupid sluts i would like to punch in the head

[Dane]

now is a better time than ever

[Jim Blastingame]

fuckin dirtbag faggot

[Dane]

shit man. Fuck you

[PU$$YCONTIN]

go fuck some women fags

[Dane]

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Donkey Punch in review by: Something Awful (http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3891)

I'll leave you with some quotes from the review.


Quote:
For years I thought Islamic fundamentalists were crazy. I thought, sure, Western culture is decadent - guilty as charged, Al Buzkil - but it's nothing worth getting so worked up you start cutting people's heads off over it. Donkey Punch reminds me of the meaning of Allahu Ackbar. It means "God is great," and the existence of a movie like Donkey Punch is pretty damning proof that God really isn't so great after all. Proving God is great in the face of that sort of convincing evidence is the sort of thing that requires a holy war. So the next time you see some Al Qaeda video out of Iraq with a bunch of excited dudes screaming "Allahu Ackbar!" while they try to blow up Humvees, remember that America's armed forces are just caught in a war between Islamic fundamentalists and Grip and Cram Johnson, producers of Donkey Punch.



Quote:
I have seen more physically disgusting pornographic movies than this one. Anything involving scat play automatically wins that sort of competition and, jizz crapping aside, Donkey Punch does not get that gross. It is, however, one of the most morally repugnant pornographic movies I have seen. It's even worse than the fake snuff porn I have seen, because those were pure simulation, this is tinged with reality. Donkey Punch is the sort of movie that the government would cite when trying to arrest pornographers and outlaw pornography. It's the sort of case the ACLU would take and then mention in the same sentence as the time they defended the freedom of speech of the KKK. It simulates violence against women with a very believable and uncomfortable pantomime. As for the most horrible moment, it would definitely be Alex Divine's "I'm getting more than I signed up for" thrashing. That was genuine distress and not the sort of thing I'm comfortable with.


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